BIRTHFIT Podcast Episode 103 featuring Natalie Sager
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Lindsey Hello, BIRTHFIT. This is Dr. Lindsey Mathews, your BIRTHFIT founder and CEO. Today, I have a very special guest, Natalie Sager. She’s the co-author of a book called “Peaceful Mama: The Mind, Body and Baby Connection.” Her and another mama, Lindsay Ambrose, wrote this book which will be coming out in May, just in time for Mother’s Day. You can purchase this book on Amazon. Be on the lookout. Follow them on Instagram, and they’ll remind you all over social media.
But before we jump into that interview, there are a few announcements. If you have not been to the website lately, go. Go to the Seminars page as this is where all of our locations for BIRTHFIT Professional and BIRTHFIT Coach Seminars are announced and scheduled for the rest of 2018. That means, Cleveland, Ohio, New Jersey, Milwaukee, Houston, all locations for the Professional Seminar. For the Coach Seminar, we have Northern Virginia, we have the UK, we have Germany, we have Seattle, we have Salt Lake City, Brooklyn, Hampton Roads, Virginia and Georgia. Those are all the locations for the rest of 2018. There will not be any more seminars scheduled or announced. If you’re listening to this and if you’re thinking about applying to be a regional director or becoming a BIRTHFIT Coach or Professional, these are your seminars. The schedule for 2019 is already in the works. Keep that in mind. If you want to get in in 2018, check out the locations. Otherwise, we will see you in 2019.
One other big announcement, the BIRTHFIT Summit, that’s right, the BIRTHFIT Summit will be happening in Austin, Texas, June 7th, 8th and 9th. The first two days are closed to the public and this is basically for regional directors and workshopping, brainstorming, growing, evolving, everything we do. The last day, this is open to the general public. We will be selling a limited number of tickets. We will also be featuring some phenomenal speakers on that day. I can definitely share one with you, Jenn Racioppi. Jennifer Racioppi is a phenomenal leader. She is a beautiful woman in touch with the cycles of the moon, cycles of being a woman, and she’s coming to share her story and share about what she does, which I would call it lunar logic and connecting basically the metaphysical, emotional cycles with our business life, with our entrepreneurial lives so that you can develop personally and step into your full power.
If you haven’t checked her out, check out her website, jenniferracioppi.com. She’s freaking special. She’s amazing. I know you will get just magical take-home pearls of wisdom from her. She is one speaker at the BIRTHFIT Summit. I will announce some more in the future. She’s actually our close-out speaker so that’s the big deal. Go sign up for a newsletter.
In the meantime, check out this podcast featuring Natalie Sager as we get into her life, her loves and her new book coming out. Enjoy.
Welcome, Natalie, to the BIRTHFIT podcast. It’s really great to have you on today.
Natalie: Thank you, it’s great to be here.
Lindsey: Awesome. I just found out you are calling, calling in, calling the radio show in from Florida. Is this where you and your family and everybody live?
Natalie: Yes. We are very fortunate to live in sunny South Florida. It feels like I’m on vacation all the time. I feel like I have some perspective when I say that because I was born and raised right outside of DC, on the Maryland side, in Montgomery County. I was fortunate to experience all four seasons and to kind of enjoy that suburbia lifestyle. And then I moved to New York City and lived there and experienced again the four seasons a little bit more intensely. When I met my husband and found out that he was originally from Florida, I was like woo-hoo! That would be great if we could move there one day.
Lindsey: Well, awesome. I definitely want to show everything about you, this book you all have written, you and your partner. Can I say that, yes?
Lindsey: Awesome. So tell people who you are and what you do in this world.
Natalie: Sure, I am Natalie, the Modern Hippie Mama and I’m bringing hippie back. I’m bringing hippie back through public speaking, through workshops, through being a meditative yogini, though teaching, but most recently through a book that I am going to be birthing very soon with my co-author Lindsay Ambrose. She is from Every Day Every Mom. She’s got a podcast and a blog.
The two of us connected in Chicago actually. We were there for an event with the Miracle Morning which is a book by Hal Elrod, and both Lindsay and myself found so much incredible value from the book that when we found out they were having an event, it was like a mastermind event in Chicago, we both signed up. Neither of us knew one another, but I just had this feeling that I was supposed to be at this event, which when you’re trying to convince your husband that you need to go to Chicago, I have to go to this event. I’m not sure why, but I just know I’m supposed to be there. I went. Fortunately, he was very supportive in me following my intuition. Lindsay and I ended up becoming partners for one of the little getting-to-know-you games or whatever that they were putting on. We started chatting and got to know each other a little bit and came to realize that both of our personal and professional missions were in direct alignment with one another. We had very similar core values and beliefs. She asked me to be on her podcast and I, of course, was like, “Yes, that would be awesome.” After she interviewed me, we just continued talking. I think we must have been on the phone for an additional hour. We realized that we should probably collaborate on something, and at that moment we realized that we could form a great partnership and create a book, which is what we did.
Lindsey: That’s pretty amazing. Go with your gut and see what happens. That’s powerful.
Natalie: Exactly, yeah.
Lindsey: Going back, I’ve checked out websites, stuff like that, a little bit, and you have two sons, correct?
Lindsey: Did this journey to bring hippie back start before your sons or they’re part of the journey? What does bringing hippie back mean to you?
Natalie: Sure, well, there’s a few questions there, so I’ll do one at a time.
Lindsey: Yes. I’m going to ask them all.
Natalie: I have always had some hippie inside of me ever since I was in high school. We used to have this show at our school. It was very well known in our area. It was called Blast from the Past, and it was a compilation of all these really awesome songs from the ’50s, the ’60s, the ’70s, and I was part of the dancing crew. I was on the dance portion and then I did a little bit of singing. Singing is not my forte but dancing is. We used to have these really cool costumes and dress up, and my favorite was always dressing up in ’70s gear, like ’60s and ’70s. I love the hippie headbands and the flowers and the bell bottoms and all that stuff. I kind of always had that in me, the free spirit and all of that.
Now, fast forward to when I was pregnant with my first son Jonah. I have always been in to fitness and dance and all of that, so that kind of aspect was already ingrained in me. But what was interesting that happened was I kind of started to evolve into a more holistic naturalist. What I mean by that is when I was pregnant with him, we were eating very healthy according to the standard American diet, which is not something that I would recommend at this point. But at that time, you do what you know and that’s what you know. At that time, I believed that I was doing everything that was “right” for my health. I had also been experiencing for many, many years severe acid reflux to the point where I actually was diagnosed with Barrett’s esophagus and I had surgery on my esophagus. It was pretty severe and I was not in the frame of mind where when the doctor said to me, “You’ll have to take medicine for the rest of your life,” I remember hearing that and thinking I don’t want to do that and there’s got to be another way.
So I went to get a prenatal massage and, fortunately, the masseuse who many years later ended up becoming my doula with my second son, she said to me, “Have you ever considered cutting out gluten?” and I was like, “Oh, I’ve never heard that before.” You know with acid reflux, they tell you no acidic foods, no tomatoes, no citrus, no spicy, no wine, no coffee, all these stuff. I had listened and followed the doctor’s orders and nothing was helping me. I was on medication and nothing was helping. I was like, well, I’m game for trying something else. So I came home and told my husband, “Hey listen, we’re going to cut out gluten.” So we did. Everything in our house that had gluten in it, we ate, and anything that we bought was gluten-free. We did this gradual transition, which looking back was really good for us because change can be very difficult for people. When it comes to a lifestyle or dietary change, it’s something that you’ve been doing for a very long time, and then requesting that you make it a semi-drastic change can be difficult. We did it in a very nonabrasive way.
What we noticed, both my husband and myself, was that when we cut out gluten, he had some digestive stuff going on as well, which is completely cured at this point. We both felt dramatically better and we were like, well, look at this. So we just completely embraced ourselves into the world of nutrition and we ended up getting our holistic health coaching certifications through Institute for Integrative Nutrition, IIN, which I’m not so sure you’ve heard of.
Lindsey: Wait, both of you did?
Natalie: Both, yes, we did it together. Yes, we are really an awesome pair. We are. We have so much in common and, fortunately, we complement each other really nicely. So we went through the certification process together. Everything really confirmed what we had already indulged ourselves in with podcasts and books and seminars and workshops and everything else. That kind of brought us closer into hippiedom. Then when my son was born, he would not stop crying, so like your typical characteristics of colic which, in my opinion, is just a completely bullshit term the doctors have come up with because they don’t know why the babies are crying, if I can be so bold to share my honest opinion about it.
I hooked up with this amazing lactation consultant. She’s an international board certified lactation consultant and she changed my life. She introduced me to a whole new world of holistic health and she recommended that I cut out dairy, which was very, very difficult for me. I actually cried. I cried that night because I was hoping so much that she was wrong, that it was not the dairy because cheese was my absolute favorite.
Lindsey: I was going to ask, what was it?
Natalie: Oh my God, cheese was my all time favorite food. My husband literally proposed to me in a block of cheddar cheese. Just to give you some perspective, it was not easy for us to do that, but we did. We cut out the dairy and I had a brand-new child. He did not cry as much. He was much easier to calm down if he did get upset. It’s just his personality. He’s very passionate and straightforward and wants what he wants. I can’t imagine where he got that from. But when we cut out the dairy, it made a huge difference. All these things kind of just propelled me into this much more holistic, natural, hippie lifestyle.
Lindsey: Yes, did that carry on into your second child or did you go to new depths of this hippie lifestyle?
Natalie: Yes. When I do something, I do it. Yes, the journey continued into this more holistic lifestyle. With my second son, when I was pregnant with him — Just a rewind, with Jonah, my pregnancy and my birth and delivery with him were very textbook. What I mean is like I wanted to have a vaginal birth. I wanted to have the epidural. Unless there was an emergency situation, I was not interested in anything but a vaginal birth. Fortunately, with him, I did have a hospital, vaginal, epidural, Pitocin birth.
By the time Skye came along, I was really into my barefoot pregnancy and was not interested at all in a hospital birth nor any of the medications that went along with it. With Skye, I ended up having a home water birth with a midwife and a doula. It was an entirely different experience and I’m so grateful for that. I’m so grateful that I had two opportunities to have very different childbirth experiences. I’m so grateful that I followed my intuition again and listened to what Skye wanted. He wanted to be born at home and I trusted that, I trusted him. Yes, it was very different.
Lindsey: Yes. Wow. If you could look at both of those births and take away one learning tool, learning pearl, what would each of those separate experiences have given you?
Natalie: Okay. Well, going into my birth with Jonah, I had my “birth plan” which we all know is really just giving us just a sense of security because it’s an illusion of control. We actually have zero control over it. I wished with Jonah that I had listened and trusted myself more. So when my OB came in and said, “You’re not progressing.” My water had broken on its own, we went to the hospital, everything was going according to, I guess, what the universe had wanted for us. But when she came in and said, “Hey, you’re not progressing, let’s do Pitocin,” all of a sudden I was filled with fear. I wished, I wished, I wished that I had not fallen into that trap of fear and just said, “Give my body some more time to progress on its own.”
I remember that. I remember feeling that. I remember once he was born feeling like a total crackhead because my body was shaking. There was the epidural running through me. There was the Pitocin running through me. There was the fear, the bright lights. Everything that a hospital birth can do to someone, I was experiencing in full force and I did not like it at all. I committed those feelings to memory and I made a promise to myself I will not do this again next time. God willing, I’ll have another pregnancy, another birth, it will not be like this. That’s what I took from Jonah’s birth and applied to Skye’s. Even though I knew that if I were to share the fact that I wanted to do a home water birth with my family, with my friends, with people, I knew that their fears would be projected on to me and so I said to myself, to my husband, to my doula and to my midwife, “This is our secret. We’re not going to tell anyone” because I don’t want anyone’s fears to make an impression on me.
Lindsey: Yes, I hear you.
Natalie: My mom says later that she knew I was going do that, but I just said we’re going to labor at home for as long as possible. I’m really, really fortunate that my parents live five minutes from us. As soon as my water broke with Skye, we brought Jonah over to my parents and came back home and just let nature take its course. We are powerful beyond belief, and when we just allow our bodies to do as they know how to do, then miracles happen.
Lindsey: Wow, that’s pretty awesome. I love to hear stories like this.
Natalie: Thank you.
Lindsey: Yes. How did you get into health coaching? You both took the course. Tell us a little bit about your business and how that unraveled.
Natalie: Sure, I felt very empowered and inspired after my own very personal experiences with nutrition and healthy living and changing my lifestyle. I wanted to share that with the world. You become really passionate about something and you’re like, “Oh, I want to help everybody.” That’s kind of what sparked my interest in going with the health coaching. I’m not really doing that now because I found that as an empath I was absorbing a lot of my clients’ stuff that was going on. I wanted to hold this beautiful, peaceful space for them to help them kind of discover how they could help to heal their own bodies, physical, mental, emotional, all that kind of stuff. But I felt it was very draining on me and it was not serving myself or my higher purpose. As much as I loved helping individuals, I realized that probably wasn’t my greatest path.
Lindsey: Yes, it’s not sustainable for you.
Natalie: Exactly, exactly. I found that doing workshops and speaking engagements and stuff like that, I was able to help a wide variety of people without taking on what they were going through. I was still kind of just holding this space for myself and for creating opportunities for other people to find enlightenment in their own lives. I have that and then I have this passion for writing. I’ve always loved to write. When Lindsay and I started our project, I just fully embraced myself in it, and this has been a very long pregnancy of two years.
Lindsey: I was going to ask, when did you all start this project?
Natalie: About two year ago.
Lindsey: I love to hear the different process of how people write books. Did you all plan and set time each week? How did this unravel?
Natalie: We had our weekly calls that we would have with one another. We would set little goals. In the beginning, we were writing together and then we were like, “You know what? You take this, I’ll take this; you take this, I’ll take this”. Within our book, we’ve created a framework which we call MAMAHH Moments. Mama is M-A-M-A-H-H. It’s like MAMAHH, like a peaceful breath out. It stands for Movement, Affirmations, Mindfulness, Abundance, Health and Heart. We talk about how you can incorporate each of these into your day. As a preconception, prenatal, postpartum woman, it’s important that you’re nourishing your mind, body and soul on a continuous basis because we have a tendency to give and give and give. When you’ve drained your own personal bucket, what you’re giving is no longer valuable and it’s taking away from your own reserves. We found that to make the biggest impact in the world, what you have to do is first start with the mother, because when the mom is healthy and happy, that creates a ripple effect on to her family which creates a ripple effect on to the community, into the world and so on.
Lindsey: I just want to say amen to that.
Natalie: Yes, please.
Lindsey: It’s so true.
Natalie: Thank you, thank you. So within this framework, we were like, okay, your strong points are mindfulness, you go take that. My strong point is movement, because I’m also a Pilates and yoga and meditation instructor. Depending on what our strong suits were, we figured, you do these three, I’ll do these three, we’ll combine them, we’ll share a thread in our own personal experiences. In addition to that, we wanted to make this book really truly epic and something that would be like this beautiful manual and guide for generations to come. We also wanted to incorporate experts.
We’ve interviewed 19 experts in our book. That just adds so much value and credibility to the actual manuscript. When you’re working with another co-author and then you’re incorporating 19 experts in addition to a publisher and an editor and all this stuff, it takes some time. We look back and we were interviewing publishers and editors at one point, and I remember speaking to this one woman. After I got off the phone with her, I said to Lindsay, “We could go with her.” It would be less financially difficult for us. It would be a lot shorter timeframe. We would get the book out, but it wouldn’t be like this masterful piece of work that we want. Then we spoke to another publisher who I happened to meet by way of divine connection. She was everything and more that we could have wanted in a partnership. She’s soulful and talented and experienced and we absolutely adore her. When you find those right people to connect with and to create with, then what you are co-creating becomes just absolutely magnificent.
Lindsey: Yes, it’s like the path of least resistance almost, like the universe makes way for you.
Lindsey: Give us a little insight into this book. I know you talked about the MAMAHH acronym, but who’s this book for? Can it be for anybody that’s pregnant, postpartum, or preconception?
Natalie: Yes to all of that. Our main intention when we started writing it was for three specific groups, preconception, prenatal, postpartum the first couple of years. What we have realized as we’ve evolved is that the tips and tools that are in the book, yes, are absolutely valuable and important and relevant to those three groups. But we’ve had beta readers, so pre-readers go in and help us be an extra set of eyes, give their opinions, find grammatical stuff and some of them are not moms, some of them are not pregnant, some of them are not even preconception and they said to us this book has so much value for any woman. That just made us feel really awesome.
But we’ve also found that there’s this missing link in the marketplace for this group of women who are not yet ready to be pregnant, the preconception women. But it’s like the late 20s, even mid 20s, early 30s, mid 30s, late 30s. This is kind of the demographic that we think our book speaks to.
Lindsey: Yes, that’s pretty awesome because I would agree with you in that I feel like women in that age group are searching for information to almost live their best self, best version of themselves, and there’s not a lot out there for them. There’s junk magazines or stuff for moms, existing moms. I think that’s really awesome that you addressed that population as well or that they can use this as a guide. I love the intention behind the mindset of it and how you said mind, body and soul, because we that phrase a lot with women. We’re like we’re training mind, body and soul for birth, for motherhood, for what’s beyond. What do you think are your biggest lessons in motherhood that maybe you shared in the book or haven’t shared in the book yet?
Natalie: Well, I come from a long line of strategists and planners, so it’s like ingrained in my DNA. There are pros and cons to that because like I mentioned earlier, we only have this sense of security when we have this illusion of control. It is just that. When I have learned to let go of the outcome instead of focusing on I want this to happen, I need this to happen, this is the plan, this is what I’m saying needs to go in correct order and blah, blah, blah, blah, I’m not truly living my life. I’m living in this like, I don’t know, hallucinogenic land that is not reality. It’s a disservice to myself and to all those around me. When I’m in constant planning mode, I am not present with my children, I’m not present with my husband, I’m not present with myself and it’s not enjoyable. When I catch those fleeting moments of being fully there, fully present, fully capable of giving my children and myself the gift of the moment, I’m in such a better place. It’s so much more enjoyable. Life becomes so much sweeter. I do not have this mastered. I’m not by any chance an expert on it. But I’m practicing it every day, and I’m bringing myself back to the moment constantly so that I can live and be the greatest version of myself.
Lindsey: Do you have any consistent lifestyle practices that help you get back to present moment or maybe calm you down if something goes astray?
Natalie: Absolutely. Both Lindsay and I talk about those a lot in the book. But just a quick and easy one for your listeners would just be bringing yourself back to breath because we take our breath for granted all the time. We don’t think, “Oh, I’ve got to take another breath or I’m going to die.” We don’t have to do that, fortunately. But when we actually take a moment “Oh my gosh, I am breathing in chest, I am breathing so shallow, I am breathing only in my throat, I’m clenching my jaw, I’m furling my brow,” these things that happen because we’re not paying attention, we’re not giving necessity or honoring our body by just slowing down and just breathing. So inhaling for five counts, holding the breath, exhaling for five counts. Doing that one time, doing that five times, doing that 20 times. Whenever you can do, it’s going to slow you down for a second.
Something that I recently have been asking myself is how does this serve me? I was just in the jungle with my husband on a nine-day deep healing and intense excursion and our children were home, thank God for my parents, and for a couple of really beautiful babysitters that were taking care of the kids. But I’m a mom. I was really concerned and getting anxious and playing all of these scenarios that could potentially happen in my head. And then all of a sudden, I was like how is this serving me? How is this anxiety, this overwhelm, this fear, how is this serving me? It’s not. It’s not serving me. Quite honestly, there’s nothing I can do. I have everything that I can do. I’ve prepared lunches. I picked out clothes. I did everything that I could do within my power and then I have to just trust. So that question, how does this serve me? In any scenario, how are these emotions serving me? If they’re not serving me, why am I putting energy towards it?
Lindsey: Yes, that’s it. That could apply to male, female, anybody out there.
Lindsey: That’s good. What are your regular or ideal morning routine with your kids?
Natalie: That has changed or evolved.
Lindsey: How old are they?
Natalie: My oldest, Jonah, will be six tomorrow and baby Skye will be three in June.
Lindsey: All moms are like, “What does she do? What’s going on over there?”
Natalie: Exactly. Well, there are days when it’s just important for me to honor and serve my body by resting, by sleeping a little bit more and allowing my husband to take the kids in the morning. There was a point in time when the morning routine for me was everything. It was my only opportunity. It was probably over a year where I was consistently going to the gym, taking a 5:45 a.m. spin class and turning that spin class into meditation in motion, affirmations, visualizations. I wrote afterwards. It was like this epic morning ritual that I had combined in this short, sweet amount of time that I had to myself, and then I was able to take all of that beautiful energy and positivity into my day.
When Skye was a little bit older and Jonah was in nursery school and everything, your schedule changes and that’s the thing. You got to just let go of your “schedule” and that’s why we created MAMAHH Moments is because you got to just find these little opportunities throughout your day to thread all of that into it, because there might not be that set hour from 5:00 a.m. to 6:00 a.m. or 4:30 a.m. to 6:00 a.m., whatever it is, where you’re able to just do everything you want to do. That’s not realistic all the time as a mother. As an example, with Skye, when I would nurse him, I would find myself on my phone, doing all of this nonsense that was not serving me. So then I was like you know what, I’m putting my phone and I’m going to be fully present with him. When he falls asleep on me, I’m going to visualize, I’m going to affirm, I’m going to set my intentions. I’m going to just, for an hour and a half to sit here and say the Ho’oponopono prayer over and over again, which is “I’m sorry, please forgive me, thank you, I love you.” Doing these little things that are actually honoring and serving as opposed to draining.
Lindsey: Yes, that’s good. Those are super helpful. I think anybody listening would take away one or two of those things and greatly enhance their morning, their day.
Lindsey: I think you hit on something where many women have a difficult time transitioning from — I often see this with baby number one — from their routine or schedule or they’re, like you mentioned earlier, very attached to the schedule, this routine. It’s so hard to let go and evolve and embrace the changing schedules of when baby comes and as baby grows and beyond.
Were there any things you and or your husband did to kind of embrace the change? Especially moving from baby number one to baby number two, you kind of expect, okay, now I have an idea of what life could be like. And even though we’re almost outnumbered here, how did you all work together in embracing this change?
Natalie: I am unbelievably fortunate to have a very supportive partner, so that is so helpful. To all the single moms out there, I give you unbelievable kudos and I have so much respect because trying to do all of that on your own is extraordinarily challenging. With that being said, when we are very strong in our beliefs, our morals, our values and are very connected to those, we will create time and space for what is important to us so that we’re then able to nourish everybody else.
When we went from no kids to one kid, that was a really, really big transition. I was still very much into my schedule, my rituals, my time and following whatever plan I had. When we went from one to two, we had gone through some pretty dramatic life experiences that forced us to shed those stringent schedules. As a result of that, we were able to let go a little bit more. Like I said, I’m definitely not an expert in this, but I am an expert in my own life and I know myself very, very well. I know that if I say I did want to do XYZ and by the time it sends that and I haven’t gotten to XYZ, I almost start to get into this like self-guilt, which does not serve at all. Saying, okay, I didn’t get to XYZ today, what can I do before I go to sleep that would make me feel like I accomplished something, that I moved in the direction of where I wanted to be? Maybe that’s just going to bed and saying a positive intention for the next day. I strongly believe that we have free will. We are capable and able of making our own choices. I also strongly believe that there is divine will and that there is divine right timing, and, like you said, the path of least resistance. When we stop resisting and we are just simply in flow, everything becomes easier, everything.
Lindsey: Yes, let go and let flow.
Natalie: Yes, exactly.
Lindsey: It’s hard but it’s a practice for sure.
Natalie: It is.
Lindsey: So where can people find this book of yours?
Natalie: I don’t know if I mentioned the name of the book, but it’s called “Peaceful Mama: The Mind, Body and Baby Connection” by Natalie Sager and Lindsay Ambrose. It will be available on Amazon in May. It will be available by Mother’s Day. That is our goal so that all the preconception, prenatal, and postpartum mamas can have that as their little gift to themselves or someone can buy it for them. We’re hoping that it will be available May 5th to May 9th. That’s our timeline.
Lindsey: Okay. Can people preorder it?
Natalie: We are not having any preorders, but if you follow us on Instagram at Peaceful Mamas, plural, so peaceful Peaceful Mamas on Instagram. We have a Facebook page at Peaceful Mamas. And then you can always email us at firstname.lastname@example.org. I certainly hope I’m saying that email address correct. Wait a second, let me make sure. It’s not. It’s email@example.com. But your best bet is probably Instagram. That’s our main focus on social media is our Instagram account. All information about launch and all that can be found there.
We will start what’s called a Peaceful Mamas Circle. That will be probably in June. That will be for women who are looking for a little bit more, so accountability, support. We’ll have some really cool interviews with a lot of our experts and there will be a place where we can have Q&A and all that. It will be like a membership site in addition to the book. Kind of the prereq will be to read the book.
Lindsey: Summer reading.
Natalie: Yes, exactly. And then we’ll have the Facebook group which will be a free tribe for anyone that wants to join, and then we’ll have the paid membership which will be kind of an exclusive VIP Peaceful Mamas Circle.
Lindsey: Awesome. I was going to ask you what’s the plans after the book in the future but it sounds like 2018 is planned out. Awesome.
Natalie: Yes, yes. We’ll see what happens.
Lindsey: Well, thank you so much for sharing about the book and sharing about your life and letting us in to get a glimpse of it.
Natalie: My pleasure.
Lindsey: Is there anything else that maybe I missed or that you want to share to women in the motherhood transition?
Natalie: It was a really wonderful opportunity to chat with you. I’m very, very grateful that we got a chance to collaborate and to connect. I’m sure that you already know and believe in this. It’s just something I feel it’s important to reiterate is that when we decide that we want to become mothers, before that conception even occurs, it’s really important for the trajectory of the health and wellness of yourself and your baby to work on your mind, your body, your soul before you even conceive. Because the woman who you are once you’re pregnant, you’ve already given a lot to your baby. So you want to make sure that before you harbor that baby inside of you that you are at a beautiful spot, mind, body and soul.
Lindsey: That’s awesome. I would add what you said earlier that that will affect your baby, your partnership, the community and everybody around you.
Natalie: Exactly, exactly.
Lindsey: Amazing. Well, thank you, Natalie. I’m really glad to share some time with you, and I’ll definitely send you over a link once this comes out.
Natalie: Cool, thank you so much.
Lindsey: Thank you. I look forward to seeing the book, but I’m special, I got an early copy.
Lindsey: I love it. We’ll post it all over Instagram.
Natalie: Cool. Thank you so much.
Lindsey: Yeah. All right, enjoy the rest of your day.
Natalie: You too, Mama.
Lindsey: All right, bye.
Lindsey: All right, BIRTHFIT, I hope you enjoyed my conversation with the Modern Hippie Mama. It’s always wonderful to gain a little bit of insight and see what other people’s processes are in life and how they adapt and grow and evolve and to hear that they’re human too and that they go through downs just as much as ups like the rest of us.
If there’s one thing that you can take away from Natalie, I would say it is to focus on you, moms. Focus on you. Like she said in the very beginning of the podcast, having mom at her most optimal version of herself and happy and loved and supported bleeds in to the rest of the world. It makes her a better mother, a better partner, a better lover, a better business woman, a better person in society. Overall, it elevates our community as a whole. I think that’s a very true and powerful statement. So if you’re listening to this and you are a mama or you know some mamas, definitely lift them up and encourage them to give themselves some love today. See you next time.
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